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? >> i think the architects of the war. addiction cheney, paul wolf wits, none of those gentlemen served in their generations in vietnam. but they were really quick to send my generation into a religious civil war that had nothing to do with 9/11 and had no weapons of mass destruction. >> i want to bring you into this. >> their families, when they hear about today's news, but yet this other side where it is almost untalked about in the beltway. why have most forgotten? >> i think there's a tendency for people to avoid the subject. it then raises the question, if it was a police take to go into iraq and i believe that it was, in retrospect given the absence of weapons of mass destruction, then it begets the question, did those 4,500 or so die in vain? that's a hard question. people don't want to answer that. i'm surprised by the polling data today, that says that roughly 38% of americans still think it was the wise move to go in when you break that down by rs and ds, roughly 60% of republicans who still believe that it was necessary to go into iraq. for what reason? i don't know. given th
are fine. the idea is america to folks like rand paul who said we need a brand new political party. a new gop. the thing is this debate will be happening over the next couple years and we won't find out where the republican party is for a while. democrats were just in this position after losing the 2004 election. they had very big debates, particularly over the iraq war in 2005, 2006. then everything was settled. we'll see where republicans are come 2015 and 2016. >> mark murray, good to see you. let's bring in radio talk show host michael smerconish who is also with msnbc and jonathan from american cross roads. thank you for being with me. jonathan, let me start with you. this is what rnc chair reince priebus said. >> focus groups describe our party as narrow minded, out of touch and, quote, stuffy old men. the perception that we're the party of the rich, unfortunately continues to grow. that's frustrating. because we care about every voter. >> what does this plan do? what does plan do to change those perceptions at least? >> i think it is a very, very good start. a very good framework o
minutes. we will bring that to you when it comes back live. >> senator rand paul seeming to have a citizenship. talking about the importance of reform and moving the party forward but as our first read team points out, the opponents to immigration right now are saying right now, let's slow down. nbc news senior editor mark murray joining me now. mark, who are these senators and what are they saying? >> it is handful of senators. you have this ranking member of the judiciary committee, chuck grassley, along with high profile tea party types like ted cruz and senator from utah pup have texas in there. they wrote a letter asking senate judiciary chairman pat lachey to slow down, that it is going too fast. sometimes when people say, hey, slow down on this type of legislation, that is one tactic to be able to defeat it. we saw with healthcare legislation in 2009 within 2010, a lot of opponent said, let's slow down, let's stop the hearings, that is the first step of stopping legislation. >> let's talk to rand paul for a second. how do we think his aspirations may be influencing a quick
budget committee chairman, paul ryan. it passed in a mostly party line vote, 221-207 and it followed heated debate. >> this resolution makes deep and indiscriminate and harmful sequestration cuts that threaten our economic recovery. >> we can't continue to spend money we don't have. >> this is an uncompromising ideological approach to our budget. >> we want to balance the budget. they don't. >> chairman of the democratic campaign committee and we should note declined an invitation to trav with the president to israel for these votes. congressman, great to see you. >> good to be with you. >> hold on right now. hold on for a second. we want to show you, show our viewers at home these live pictures of president obama again, president obama meeting with president peres. he is going to be receiving the medal of distinction there. while we are looking at these pictures, congressman, let's talk for a few moments until they start the speeches. let's talk about the trip the president has been on. i'm sure you saw at least a portion of the speech this morning. you saw the speech yesterday. is
me. paul, i would like to start with you. "time" magazine had the cover, from gay marriage to obama care, justice anthony kennedy is the decider. i want to show this to you. and read a portion of talking points memorandum officially there was an article posted. it said there have been two decisions in american history expanding rights for gays and lesbians. anthony kennedy wrote the opinion for both. he know where history is going and that he faces the choice between writing the next plessy versus ferguson and the next brown versus board of education. he wants to be on the right side of history. what's your response to that in. >> all of that is quite accurate except maybe where they're guessing about kennedy's mind and the right side of history. but that also sounds right to me. he did rule, he is going to be probably the deciding vote with the other justices evenly split. so which way he throws his weight will be determinative. he did decide in favor of gay rights in two previous cases. somewhat different but also somewhat the same as this. so we'll just have to wait and see about
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